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JustAnOgre's avatar

LOL. Reminds me of the drawings Newton demonstrated orbital mechanics with. It was about cannons firing cannonballs. So get this, every king and aristocrat immediately got the message that this nerdy stuff can help win wars. (Well Descartes was already an artillery officer.) Conquering nature? First and foremost, conquering each other.

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Vic Shayne's avatar

Another great, great article!! Well thought-out.

I am not so sure that scientists are objective, not from what I have heard and experienced in general. Science, though, is based on an objective measurement and observation. If scientists were objective we would have far fewer problems due to human error, interference, bias, selfish motives, jealousy, spite, and so on.

Why do you think animists considered everything in their world as part of the subject and not the object? Were they aligned with a universal truth or just a bunch of hairy ignoramuses who saw themselves as a part of their difficult and confusing existence?

If there is no injection of the individual's judgments, analyses, suppositions, and appraisals, and if the mind were completely clear and without thought, would nature be an object in the psychological sense? In the physical sense, of course it appears to be an object because it is over there and we are over here. But beneath the surface and the facade, the distinction quickly falls away, especially under close scrutiny. While early humans didn’t have microscopes, animists seem to have grasped the idea that there is really no solid delineation between anything and the environment. There are actually no sharp edges that differentiate a person from a stone that he is sitting upon, for instance.

Your example of an objectified woman is apt here, because the subject is not actually seeing the totality of the woman and all else, but rather an image of his own creation. And it's my experience that most people seem to make not only an image of what they are looking at and interacting with, but also of themselves.

Science requires an object, because it requires reductionism to study and measure anything in our world, big as a solar system or small as a proton. But this has nothing to do with creating an object in a psychological sense.

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